tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post3928030038171144589..comments2024-02-18T03:14:22.698-08:00Comments on JFKcountercoup: James Douglas & Wes WiseWilliam Kellyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06891936236810260349noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post-91771091877251224682014-01-14T09:01:51.759-08:002014-01-14T09:01:51.759-08:00Interesting that Jimmy Files would say "Oswal...Interesting that Jimmy Files would say "Oswald" drove him around Dallas in a Falcon Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12744698948313737803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post-58455365156108203042013-05-17T12:54:19.515-07:002013-05-17T12:54:19.515-07:00Following some further research, it appears that M...Following some further research, it appears that Mack Pate was present when TF White jotted down the plate number of "LHO's" ride.<br /><br />Did Pate ever describe the vehicle per his own observations?<br /><br />Tomtaneal1https://www.blogger.com/profile/00972855478401099242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post-36911679626576383952013-05-16T23:50:12.288-07:002013-05-16T23:50:12.288-07:00Bill,
My understanding is:
* White was not eage...Bill,<br /><br />My understanding is: <br /><br />* White was not eager to get involved, but...<br /><br />* he told Wise "LHO" was sitting in a RED '57 Plymouth & he had the plate number.<br /><br />* FBI traced the plate, and found it on Mather's BLUE '57 Plymouth.<br /><br />* Told by the FBI the plate was registered to a BLUE '57 Plymouth, White said he now believed the car was a RED '61 Falcon.<br /><br />Apparently, White changed the cars year and make, due to his fear of involvement, yet according to the FBI report, he maintained his ID of LHO. This seems a contradiction...<br /><br />Do you believe that White told Wise the car was RED? <br /><br />If so, then either White got the color wrong (hard to believe), Wise got the color wrong (equally hard to believe), the FBI lied that Mather's car was BLUE, and it was actually RED (always possible), Mather's plate was taken from his car, and attached to a RED '57 Plymouth (unlikely), or White got the plate number wrong. Quite a coincidence that the "incorrect" number would match one of Tippet's best friends' car!<br /><br />None of the above choice's seem especially likely, but I do believe White told Wise the truth.<br /><br />Do you think the "double" was driving Mather's car? What are your thoughts regarding the BLUE v. RED discrepancy?<br /><br />Tomtaneal1https://www.blogger.com/profile/00972855478401099242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post-55935839381210699192012-08-10T09:23:51.188-07:002012-08-10T09:23:51.188-07:00Keep digging. You'll find Gordon Mcclendon'...Keep digging. You'll find Gordon Mcclendon's association with Collin's radio.<br />Place the following info in a box. then shake well.<br />East Dallas. ( Gaston ave., Ross ave., Greenville Ave., East Grand Ave., And Pam's recording studio.)<br />player's. ( J.D.Bogle, Groom Brother's, Jack Keller, Jim Ling, R.L. Thornton, Earl Cabell, Clint Murchinson Sr.,H.L.Hunt,and EDS.)<br />The money was in Highland Park, Preston Hollow,White Rock area, and preston and northwest highway.<br />There is no " Deep Throat " in washington concerning 11.22.63.<br />The Plan was hatched in Dallas, and the final Answer lies underneath in Dallas.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01548581409604047618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post-81954547385221238422012-08-10T08:10:35.818-07:002012-08-10T08:10:35.818-07:00I believe Collin's radio was close to the inte...I believe Collin's radio was close to the intersection of buckner blvd. and Forney road in Dallas. About two miles from the home of Dewey Groom.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01548581409604047618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post-24559858503982776782012-03-02T18:50:17.460-08:002012-03-02T18:50:17.460-08:00I agree with you. I don't buy Haire or Burroug...I agree with you. I don't buy Haire or Burroughs either, I just copy what Jim Douglas says, and note that I don't make the jumps he does connecting the various Oswald "lookalikes," as I think they are different individuals. I do believe Mr. White and the Texas PP4537 and its connection to Carl Mather's 57' Plymouth, and that's the key piece of evidence that no one can just dismiss by saying you don't believe the witness, as we can do with Haire and Burroughs. White wrote down the number and since he's a mechanic he said 57' Plymouth and Mather's car was a '57 Plymouth 4537. Nailed.William Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06891936236810260349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post-46850534490338667762012-03-02T13:55:30.829-08:002012-03-02T13:55:30.829-08:00Bill,
I'm sorry, but I can't buy into Hai...Bill,<br /><br />I'm sorry, but I can't buy into Haire or Burroughs.<br /><br />Burroughs' statements about a second man being handcuffed and who looked exactly like Oswald has no corroboration whatsoever inside the theater. He's simply repeating a mix of what he's read and what he thinks people want to hear. Haire I believe may have seen something - but if he did, it was a witness being taken in. Why would Haire go around the back just because he couldn't see through the crowd at the front? Obviously the crowd was there because that's where all the action was? Can we honestly believe he went around the back EXPECTING to see something, and lo and behold, he DOES see something? How did the DPD tell the two lookalikes apart? Why does the man at the back look like he's been in a struggle when only one struggle is known to have occurred - and that was with the person take out the front? So many holes... how does Douglas not see the problems?Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05955477075370634732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post-1128021983333747102012-03-02T10:23:14.652-08:002012-03-02T10:23:14.652-08:00Hi Linda, and yes, Jim Douglas makes a number of b...Hi Linda, and yes, Jim Douglas makes a number of big jumps that I can't make, like saying the Oswald "lookalike" taken into custody and led out the back door of the Texas Theater is the same Oswald "lookalike" who was driving Mather's 57' Plymouth. I think they were different individuals. And the only association I can make between Collins and the CIA is the Rex. BKWilliam Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06891936236810260349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1245944348321146643.post-60649438700817846152012-03-02T08:17:31.724-08:002012-03-02T08:17:31.724-08:00Can we really say that Collins Radio points to &qu...Can we really say that Collins Radio points to "the CIA" or to a rogue group of Texans with links to the CIA?Linda Minorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12471408043285695958noreply@blogger.com