Tuesday, June 9, 2020

Dispensing With Oswald the Patsy - Updated

Updated with corrections, alterations, photos and links 14/06/20

By William E. Kelly, Jr. 

Lee Harvey Oswald: Plan, Chaos or Conspiracy? - HISTORY

Before you can begin to move on to understand what really happened at Dealey Plaza and in the assassination of President Kennedy you must first deal with and dispense with the accused assassin – Lee Harvey Oswald.

While others argue continuously as to whether he was a deranged lone gunman, the Patsy he claimed to be, government agent or Mafia goon, Oswald can be dispensed with by simply putting him into his deserved place as a pawn on the Devil’s Chessboard.

In the end, it really doesn’t matter what his role was in the Dealey Plaza Operation - lone shooter or patsy, and that's because he was a minor player in the bigger drama.  

Pierre Salinger - JFK’s press secretary aboard the cabinet plane over the Pacific, described their reactions to the news of the President’s assassination - “The messages kept coming off the wire service machine,” Salinger wrote, “and finally one started grinding out the story of Lee Harvey Oswald and his previous life in Russia and his membership in the Fair Play for Cuba Committee (FPCC). This went against all the preconceived theories we had established.”

Secretary of State Dean Rusk, the senior diplomat on board then said, “If this is true, this is going to have repercussions around the world for years to come.”

And indeed it has, up to and including today. 

Who was Lee Harvey Oswald? As his background was quickly released by the media – some say too quickly, it was apparent who he was.

Lee Harvey Oswald was born in New Orleans, served in the Civil Air Patrol (CAP), enlisted in the United States Marine Corps (USMC) in the footsteps of his older brother, was trained in radar, communications and the Russian language, was given an early discharge and defected to the Soviet Union. There he married a Russian women, returned home with wife and daughter without any repercussions, associated with wealthy White Russians in Dallas including George deMohrenschilt, George Bouhe and Volkmar Schmidt. He obtained jobs Leslie Welding and at Jaggers/Chiles/Stoval – a graphics arts firm with US Army contracts. He purchased a rifle through the mail using an alias traceable to him, is accused of taking a pot shot at General Walker, relocated to his hometown of New Orleans, where he associated with his uncle Dutz Murrat, Guy Bannister and his former CAP captain David Ferrie. After trying to infiltrate the New Orleans anti-Castro Cuban group Student Revolutionary Directorate (DRE), he got into an altercation with them and was arrested with the DRE members while handing out FPCC leaflets on Canal Street. Oswald did a radio debate with DRE leader Carlos Bringuier and Ed Butler – both trained by the CIA in psychological warfare. Oswald reportedly traveled to Mexico City under an alias, visited the Cuban and Soviet embassies in an attempt to get a visa to Cuba, and is said to have met with KGB assassination expert. After returning to Dallas he got a room under an alias while his wife and two daughters live with Ruth Paine, estranged wife of Bell Helicopter designer Michael Paine. Oswald obtained a job at the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD) through Mrs. Paine and Roy Truly and is accused of assassinating the president all by himself, with no assistance.

And he did all that at 24 years of age.

When I was 24 I didn’t know anything. He had a beautiful wife, two young girls, a job and over a hundred dollars in his pockets, more than I have now. Some guys would give their right arm for that, and those who say he killed the president all by himself also describe him as a loser, rather than the world’s greatest assassin he would be if he had done it.

In looking at the eyewitness testimony however, Oswald wasn’t even on the sixth floor let alone in the window with a gun.


Oswald was last seen on the Sixth Floor shortly before noon, walking south with his clipboard after instructing the floor laying crew to send him one of the two elevators they were racing to the first floor. 

Oswald’s clipboard was later found on the sixth floor and he apparently took the elevator down to the first floor where he was seen around noon by Bill Shelley standing by the first floor telephone, as if expecting a phone call.

At some point early in the morning Oswald asked another employee why people were gathering out front, and seemed surprised that the President’s motorcade would pass by.

Around 12:15 secretary Carolyn Arnold saw Oswald on the first floor – at the same time Arnold Rowland was outside on the curb across the street watching two men in the sixth floor window, one with a rifle who was standing in a port-arms position – a military drill position assumed under orders. If Oswald was on the first floor at 12:15 – when the motorcade was scheduled to pass, he was out of position, and wasn’t the man with a rifle on the sixth floor. 

As Howard Roffman notes: “The Warren Commission stated in its Report that it knew of no Book Depository employee who claimed to have seen Oswald between 11:55 and 12:30 on the day of the assassination. This was false, as this FBI report from the Warren Report never mentions Mrs. Arnold and this FBI document was omitted from the Commission's published evidence.”

[BK:Howard Roffman:  
JFKcountercoup: HOWARD ROFFMAN’S “Presumed Guilty” /Book Intro: "Presumed Guilty, How & Why the Warren Commission Framed Lee Harvey Oswald"  ]

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION  Date 11/26/63  Mrs. R. E. ARNOLD, Secretary, Texas School Book Depository, advised she was in her office on the second floor of the building on November 22, 1963, and left that office between 12:00 and 12:15 PM, to go downstairs and stand in front of the building to view the Presidential Motorcade. As she was standing in front of the building, she stated she thought she caught a fleeting glimpse of LEE HARVEY OSWALD standing in the hallway between the front door and the double doors leading to the warehouse, located on the first floor. She could not be sure that this was OSWALD, but said she felt it was and believed the time to be a few minutes before 12:15 PM.

Mrs. Arnold later told a number of reporters that she was more positive of seeing Oswald than the FBI report indicates.

At 12:15 p.m Arnold Rowland was standing with his wife diagonally across the street from the TSBD, and timed to the chatter of a police radio that announced the motorcade was “at Cedar Springs Road off Turtle Creek.” At that time he saw a man on Sixth floor windows standing with a rifle at “Port Arms,” a military position.  

If Oswald was on the first floor, who was the man with the rifle on the Sixth Floor at the precise time the motorcade was scheduled to come by? It was fifteen minutes late. This person in the sixth floor window was seen by other spectators on the street, who noticed that he wasn’t looking towards the direction the motorcade would come, but rather was looking west towards the overpass and grassy knoll.

Dallas reporter Earl Golz interviewed some prisoners incarcerated on the sixth floor of the Court House diagonally across the street, who said they saw two men in the sixth floor windows of the TSBD, one with a rifle with a scope.

Oswald said that at the time of the assassination he was on the first floor in the Domino Room eating lunch, when two of the black guys he worked with walked by. Although they claimed not to have noticed Oswald, the two men acknowledged that before going up to the Fifth Floor they did walk by the Domino Room. So how did Oswald know they were there if he didn’t see him? Further corroboration that Oswald was in the Domino Room came a few weeks after the assassination when his jacket was discovered in the window sill, right where he said he ate lunch.

A few minutes before the motorcade arrived the Pilot car, driven by DPD Captain Lumpkin, also a U.S. Army Reserve officer, pulled to the curb and stopped at the corner of Houston and Elm where Lumpkin told one of the three traffic policeman standing there that the motorcade was a mile and a few minutes behind him. By doing so he also told the Sixth Floor Sniper, sixty feet above him.

Only two witnesses on the street actually saw the Sixth Floor gunman – construction worker Howard Brennan and young Amos Eunis. Both describe a man in his early thirties with a white shirt (Oswald wore brown). Brennan told the police that he would recognize the man if he saw him again.

Eunis testified to the Warren Commission: “I seen a bald spot on this man's head, trying to look out the window. He had a bald spot on his head. I was looking at the bald spot.  I could see his hand, you know the rifle laying across in his hand. And I could see his hand sticking out on the trigger part. And after he got through, he just pulled it back in the window.”

[BK Notes, Eunis mentions the 'bald spot' about a dozen times during his short testimony, certainly a distinguishing characteristic not shared with Oswald that could help identify the actual sixth floor shooter.]

Both men said that the shooter did not appear to be in any hurry and just stood back from the window as if surveying what he had just done.

Of those who were outside on the curb watching the murder first hand there was Ochus Campbell.

Ochus V. (Virgil) Campbell, vice-president of the textbook firm, told a New York Herald Tribune reporter that, ….  “Shortly after the shooting we raced back into the building . We had been outside watching the parade. We saw him (Oswald) in a small storage room on the ground floor. Then we  noticed he was gone….Of course Oswald and the others were on their lunch hour but he did not have permission to leave the building and we haven’t seen him since.”

Note STORAGE area between the steps  

So Campbell saw Oswald standing next to the storage room on the first floor by the steps, as can be seen in the schematic drawing of the first floor. The red line is the entrance Campbell came in. 

The Storage Area is at the bottom right next to the steps to the second floor next to the Storage area.

But according to the Warren Report Oswald was on the Sixth Floor ditching his rifle and racing down four flights of steps to get to the Second Floor lunchroom, where he was seen by DPD officer Marion Baker and TSBD Superintendent Roy Truly ninety seconds after the shooting.

But there were four other people on those steps, and none of them saw anyone run down.

Jack Doughterty said he was on the fifth floor landing when heard the shots and then, after about five minutes, descended to the first floor in one of the elevators once the electric was turned back on.

Victoria “Vicki” Elizabeth Adams and Sandra Styles left their fourth floor office within a minute of the last shot and descended the back steps without seeing anyone until they arrived on the first floor where they encountered William Shelley and Billy Lovelady. They didn’t pass Oswald or anybody on the steps.

Their supervisor was on the fourth floor landing and didn’t see Oswald or anyone run past her. 

So there were four people on the steps – Dougherty on the fifth floor landing, the supervisor on the fourth floor landing, and two secretaries on the steps, none of whom saw or heard Oswald or anybody run past them, as they would have if Oswald descended those steps.


Then there’s the official rendition of Marion Baker and Roy Truly encountering Oswald in the Second Floor lunchroom ninety seconds after the shooting.

I understand that there are many disputes as to the accuracy of this story, but I take the official version as it exonerates Oswald.

[For more on other variations see Bart Kemp's Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunch Room Encounter at Prayer Man @ Prayer Man ]                                                                               

 Dallas police motorcycle policeman Marion Baker immediately pulled his bike aside in front of the TSBD – parked it and ran up the front steps where building superintendent Roy Truly met him and offered to direct Baker to the roof. Baker was an experienced hunter and suspected a shooter was located on the roof because he noticed a flock of pigeons flew away from there at the sound of the shots.

Truly led Baker to the back of the building where the service elevators were not working because the electricity had been shut off.

So they began to ascend the old wooden steps on the west wall of the building.

When Marion Baker got to the top of steps on the Second Floor landing he started to turn the corner a few feet behind Truly but suddenly stopped, later testifying under oath that as he turned the corner on the second floor, he “scanned the room” and out of the corner of his eye, he saw a man through the glass window walking past the door.

Since Ochus Campbell saw Oswald near the storage area next to the steps to the second floor, it is apparent that Oswald walked up those stairs, crossed through the secretary’s office, and walked passed the closed door that Baker saw him through the window walking past.

The Warren Report:  “On the second floor landing there is a small open area with a door at the east end. 

This door leads into a small vestibule, and another door leads from the vestibule into the second-floor lunchroom. The lunchroom door is usually open, but the first door is kept shut by a closing mechanism on the door. This vestibule door is solid except for a small glass window in the upper part of the door. As Baker reached the second floor, he was about 20 feet from the vestibule door. He intended to continue around to his left toward the stairway going up but through the window in the door he caught a fleeting glimpse of a man walking in the vestibule toward the lunchroom.”

Marion Baker: “As I came out to the second floor there, Mr. Truly was ahead of me, and as I come out I was kind of scanning, you know, the room, and I caught a glimpse of this man walking away from this — I happened to see him through this window in this door. I don’t know how come I saw him, but I had a glimpse of him coming down there.”

Howard Roffman was a University of Pennsylvania student when he read the Warren Commission testimony and exhibits and wrote one of the most important early books on the assassination, “Presumed Guilty.” 

As Roffman indicates, “One of the crucial aspects of Baker's story” (that proves Oswald’s innocence) is his position at the time he caught a ‘fleeting glimpse’ of a man in the vestibule (through the door window). Baker marked this position during his testimony as having been immediately adjacent to the stairs at the northwest corner of the building.”

See the second floor schematic drawing - showing the front steps - front elevator - secretary's office, the open lunchroom door - the closed door with window - and lunchroom. 

Roffman: “It should be noted that the Report never mentions Baker's position at the time he (first) saw Oswald in the vestibule. Instead, it prints a floor plan of the second floor and notes Baker's position ‘when he observed Oswald in lunchroom.’ This location, as indicated in the Report, was immediately outside the vestibule door. The reader of the Report is left with the impression that Baker saw Oswald in the vestibule as well from this position. However, Baker testified explicitly that he first caught a glimpse of the man in the vestibule from the stairs and, upon running to the vestibule door, saw Oswald in the lunchroom. The Report's failure to point out Baker's position is significant.” 

See Photo:: The closed door and window as Baker saw Oswald through that window from the top of the steps that Oswald didn't go through or Truly would have seen him. 


When Baker saw Oswald though the window of the closed lunchroom door Oswald was walking from right to left, as he would have if he walked through the secretary’s office and through the other open door, the same way he left.

Since the door with the window had to be closed when Baker first saw Oswald though the window, Oswald couldn’t have entered through that door, or Truly – steps ahead of Baker, would have seen him.

The lunchroom door had to be closed for Baker to see Oswald through the window because science requires that if the door was open, even if only an inch or two, physics and pure geometry dictate the foot square window decrease in size as the door opens and closes, which makes it impossible for Baker, standing 20 feet away at the top of the steps to see Oswald if the door wasn’t completely closed.

The door had to be closed for Baker to see Oswald through that window. Even if open only a few inches Baker would not be able to see through that square foot window, so it had to be closed.

Oswald didn’t go through that door because if he had Truly, just ahead of Baker, would have seen him and didn’t.

When the Warren Commission attorneys realized the significance of these facts, they recalled Roy Truly a second time, after he had already testified extensively, just to ask him one question, the clincher. At an office in the Post Office Annex just across Dealey Plaza from the TSBD, they placed Truly under oath again and created a legal affidavit in order to answer one peculiar question: did the door to the second floor lunchroom have an automatic closing device? I kid you not.

And the answer is yes, it does.

The following affidavit was executed by Roy Sansom Truly on August 3, 1964.

County of Dallas, ss:
I, Roy Sansom Truly, being duly sworn say:
1. I am the Superintendent of the Texas School Book Depository Building Dallas, Texas.
2. The door opening on the vestibule of the lunchroom on the second floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building is usually shut because of a closing mechanism on the door.
Signed this 3d day of August 1964, at Dallas Tex.
(S) Roy Sansom Truly,

The door was closed shut all right, and Oswald didn’t go through that door a few seconds previous or Truly would have seen him.

In his Warren Commission testimony Truly admits as much.

Mr. BELIN. Okay. And where was this officer at that time?
Mr. TRULY. This officer was right behind me and coming up the stairway.
By the time I reached the second floor, the officer was a little further behind me than he was on the first floor, I assume - I know.
Mr. BELIN. Was he a few feet behind you then?
Mr. TRULY. He was a few feet. It is hard for me to tell. I ran right on around to my left, started to continue on up the stairway to the third floor, and on up.
Mr. BELIN. Now when you say you ran on to your left, did you look straight ahead to see whether there was anyone in that area, or were you intent on just going upstairs?
Mr. TRULY. If there had been anybody in that area, I would have seen him
“If there had been anybody in that area – I would have seen him.”

Those who try to implicate Oswald as the Sixth Floor sniper use stop watches to time themselves running the distance from the SE corner window, ditch the rifle, descend the steps four flights and run across the room and do so in less than the required ninety seconds. And while they can run the fifty yards in less than ninety seconds, they can't do it without running out of breath. But it isn’t the fact that someone can cover that distance in the required time – what exonerates Oswald is the fact that if he had gone through that closed door, rather than the open one leading to the secretary’s office, Truly would have seen him, and didn’t.

So Oswald wasn’t on the Sixth Floor when the shots were fired, didn’t run down those steps, didn’t go through that door, and didn’t kill the President.


Roy Truly’s role in this affair isn’t over yet. There’s two other items that need to be addressed. For one, as Truly, Baker and the secretary who saw Oswald leaving the Second Floor lunchroom with a coke all testified – Oswald’s demeanor was not that of a person who had just fired a rifle, blew a man’s brains out, ditched the rifle and ran down four flights of steps – out of breath, hyperventilating sweating and nervous, but rather he was cool, calm and collected.

I challenge anyone to run fifty yards without hyperventilating and breathing heavy. It can’t be done.


Commissioner Boggs: “Were you suspicious of this man?”
Baker: “No, sir; I wasn’t.”
Boggs: “When you saw him, was he out of breath, did he appear to have been running, or what?”
Baker: “It didn’t appear that to me. He appeared normal, you know.”
Boggs: “Was he calm and collected?”
Baker: “Yes, sir; He never did say a word or nothing. In fact, he didn’t change his expression one bit.”
Mr. Belin: Did he flinch in anyway when you put the gun up . . .?
Mr. Baker: No, sir.
Sen. Cooper: He did not show any evidence of any emotion?
Mr. Baker: No, sir.


Mr. Belin: Did you see any expression on his face? Or weren't you paying attention?
Mr. Truly: He didn't seem to be excited or overly afraid or anything. He might have been a little startled, like I might have been if someone confronted me. But I cannot recall any change in expression of any kind on his face.
Counsel Belin: All right. How far was the officer’s gun from Lee Harvey Oswald when he asked the question?”
Truly: …it seemed to me like it was almost touching him.


Mrs. Robert Reid, Clerical Supervisor at the Book Depository was standing on the curb in front of the TSBD and commented to her employers that she believed the shots came from “our building.”  

Mrs. Reid: “The thought that went through my mind, my goodness I must get out of this line of shots, they may fire more. I ran into the building. I do not recall seeing anyone in the lobby. I ran up to our office…up the stairs…the front stairs…I went into the office. I kept walking and I looked up and Oswald was coming in the back door of the office. I met him by the time I passed my desk several feet… I had no thoughts of anything of him having any connection with it at all because he was very calm. He had gotten a coke and was holding it in his hands and I guess the reason it impressed me seeing him in there I thought it was a little strange that one of the warehouse boys would be up in the office at that time, not that he had done anything wrong.”
Counsel Belin: “Was there anything else you noticed about him? Anything about the expression on his face?”
Reid: “No; just calm.”
Commissioner Dulles: “Was he moving fast?”
Reid: “No; because he was moving at a very slow pace. I never did see him moving fast at any time.”


Brennan was the hard had construction worker who saw the sixth floor sniper and told police he would recognize him again if he saw him again. He was told to stand by a police car at the curb at the bottom of the TSBD front door steps. As he stood there, he noticed the black workers who were looking out the fifth floor window as they left the building, and pointed them out to the police, who took them in for questioning.

Around the same time, according to the Warren Report, Oswald left the building the same way – through the front door, down the steps and right past Brennan, who didn’t recognize him as the sixth floor sniper, because he wasn’t.

Oswald wasn’t on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting, wasn’t the sixth floor sniper, did not run down those steps, did not go through the lunchroom door, and wasn’t the assassin who killed the president.  These absurd number of exonerating elements make that implausible if not impossible. 

Those who still claim Oswald did it must reasonably account for each and every one of these exonerating elements, while any one of them, in the words of John McAdams, let’s Oswald “off the hook.”

Each of these objections must be explained for Oswald to be the sixth floor sniper, but if any one of them is true, then Oswald is innocent of killing the President.

And those who ignore all of the above and are convinced of Oswald’s guilt swallow the lone nut cover-story, hook, line and sinker as a matter of belief.

At least those who still contend that Oswald was the assassin must accept the fact that there are many good reasons why most people believe that Oswald didn’t kill the president - and someone else did.

In the end, the bottom line, it doesn’t matter what Oswald’s role was – shooter or Patsy, once the assassination event is properly viewed and descried for what it was – an operation – a covert intelligence operation that utilized Oswald as part of their deception to protect the actual snipers and their sponsors. 


"There's another thing that's got to be taken care of first,” Sam Spade says, “We've got to have a fall-guy. The police have got to have a victim - somebody they can stick those murders on. The way to handle them is to toss them a victim, somebody they can hang the works on. I get away with it because I never let myself forget that a day of reckoning is coming. I never forget that when the day of reckoning comes I want to be all set to march into headquarters pushing a victim in front of me, saying 'Here, you chumps, is your criminal!'” – Sam Spade – The Maltise Falcon – by Dashiell Hammett

"Here, you chumps, is your criminal!"  - In the photo Cigar Chomping Dallas Detective Paul Bentley took Oswald into custody.

An End to Conspiracy? Rare Photo of Lee Harvey Oswald's Arrest ...

[BK Notes: Bentley was a close personal friend of the Navy officer Lt. Com. Robert Steel who officially investigated Oswald after his defection and after the assassination and wrote reports that are now missing.
JFKcountercoup: Interview with ONI Investigator Robert Steel ]

In "The Mast of Anarchy" - Edwar Lester Pearson quoting Percy Bysshe Shelley - 

"I met Murder on the way –
He had a mask like Castlereagh:
Very smooth he looked, yet grim;
Seven bloodhounds followed him.
All were fat; and well they might
Be in admirable plight,
For one by one, and two by two,
He tossed them human hearts to chew."

Oswald's heart was only the first thrown to the bloodhounds who are still chewing away. 

BK NOTES: THIS IS A FIRST DRAFT - MORE TO COME. With Additional notes and graphics 

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Unknown said...

If you were Oswald’s defense attorney and your superlative article constituted your closing argument at his criminal trial for being the assassin of President John F. Kennedy, the jury would undoubtedly believe beyond a reasonable doubt that Oswald was innocent of the assassination of Kennedy. It is a historical tragedy that such a trial was precluded from taking place by the subsequent assassination of Oswald as part of the well orchestrated cover-up by those responsible for the murder of President Kennedy.

Troppocrat said...

Kelly is remiss to not mention that Carolyn Arnold was adamant that she did not say she saw Oswald in the Lobby at 12:15...Arnold insisted to Earl Golz that she saw Oswald eating lunch at his regular booth seat in the 2nd floor lunch room at 12:25...Arnold said FBI altered her statement to the Lobby and 12:15 but she never said it...Another thing Kelly omits is my discovery that Sarah Stanton saw Oswald standing on the NW staircase 2nd floor landing waiting to get back in to the 2nd floor lunch room when she left to go outside...Oswald was waiting for Mrs Reid and the other ladies to clear out of that lunch room...Seeing how Stanton saw Oswald with a soda it is possible Oswald saw Jarman and Norman when he went to the first floor to get that soda...Or maybe Oswald saw the two black workers as they went by the 2nd floor staircase landing in the elevator...Kelly ignores that Gill Toff interviewed Jack Dougherty who told him Oswald ate lunch in the 2nd floor lunch room while Dougherty ate his lunch in the Domino Room...Dougherty saw Oswald around 12:27 when he went back upstairs...So that makes three witnesses, Stanton, Carolyn Arnold, and Dougherty who saw Oswald in or near the 2nd floor lunch room just before the assassination...Baker & Truly saw Oswald in that same place 75 seconds after the shots so therefore Oswald was in there the whole time...The reason Baker's testimony of how he detected Oswald is fuzzy is because he noticed Oswald because Oswald flinched away from the lunch room door window when he saw Baker emerge on the 2nd floor staircase landing...Baker noticed the guilty flinching and pursued it according to his police instincts...He couldn't tell this in any report or testimony because it obviously showed that Oswald was standing there the whole time and had not just run down from the 6th floor...Oswald probably went to watch the staircase either when he heard Adams & Styles clatter down them or heard Truly call for the elevator...Like Arnold, Baker also saw Oswald's lunch on the table and knew he was in there during the assassination...It is a mistake to link Bart Kamp's refuted Prayer Man website in any article discussing Oswald's location in the Depository...The information in Kamp's Prayer Man website, that Oswald was Prayer Man on the front steps and that the 2nd floor lunch room encounter didn't happen, is bogus and has been credibly refuted by myself...

Doyle Crusher said...

Perhaps Troppocrat, a.k.a Brian Doyle, could stop stalking and faking the evidence for a change.

fizzly said...

Sorry, im not understanding why would Oswald be guilty flinching if he hadn't done anything wrong?

John I. said...

Doyle’s mission is to spread misinformation to any site that will let him.

- His “discovery” that “Sarah Stanton saw Oswald standing on the NW staircase 2nd floor landing waiting to get back in to the 2nd floor lunch room when she left to go outside” was completely fabricated by him and has no evidentiary basis.

- The snippet of the Gill Todd interview that we’ve seen has Dougherty seeing Oswald in the second floor lunchroom when Dougherty went down for
lunch, not “around 12:27”.

- Arnold never said anything about Oswald having a “regular booth seat”. Doyle made that up too.

- The thing about Oswald “flinching” away from the door was also completely made up. As was the thing about Baker seeing Oswald’s lunch on the table.

Greg said...

Dispense with Oswald by all means, Bill... and continue chasing ghosts.

Whose pawn was Oswald on "the Devil's Chessboard'? And what evidence do you have to back it up?

You can only find out who the players are by working you way out from Oswald. By ignoring him, you and others in the conspiriocracy can madly go ahead and invent whatever consiracy model you want. Apparently everyone on the planet had access to Oswald for use as a patsy.

You say, "In the end, it really doesn’t matter what his role was in the Dealey Plaza Operation - lone shooter or patsy, and that's because he was a minor player in the bigger drama." But you can only say that if you ignore that Oswald was real human being and therefore it DOES matter if he was a patsy or a shooter. It matters to his family and it matters to history. As you are fond of telling everyone else, "events in history only happened in one way"

Your repeated claim that an encounter on the second floor exonerates Oswald is utter nonsense. The WC did 10 time trials to prove it was theoretically possible for Oswald to get down from the 6th floor in time. That is all they needed to hang him. A theoretical possibility. So you ignore the reality of what happened when you claim "exoneration". It wasn't. It helped convict him postmortem.

The one way it happened is shown in the vast documentary evidence on Bart's site.

Oswald went to lunch ---> then to the 2nd floor to buy a coke (a daily ritual for a number of them) ----> to the first floor with his coke to eat his sandwich----> sees Jarman and Norman come back inside through the window of the domino room ---> hears the increased noise as the motorcade is approaching----> goes out and stands in the only available spot in the back corner - probably can;t see anything much at all and quickly goes back inside---- is seen just after the assassination by Ochus Campbell just standing just inside a small storeroom where books are kept.

The only importance of the Darnell and Weigman frames is that most people can't be bothered going through all of the documentary evidence that points to this scenario. Too much work. They need a visual of Oswald on those steps. Meanwhile, those same people keep trying to make the ludicrous claim that the whole thing is based solely on those film frames. It is is not. Far from it.

I wonder what all of you are going to say when the original films are finally obtained and a clear frame can be scanned showing it is indeed Oswald - right where he said he was?

Will you claim photo fakery Bill, so you can keep maintaining that the Dallas Police would never lie and make this 2nd floor encounter story up?

Unknown said...

The circles with numbers in them on the diagrams confuse me. What are they? Also, why did Oswald leave the building without permission?

Unknown said...

Why did Oswald leave the building without permission?

OCCUPIED BERLIN 1968-70 said...

Great stuff Bill keep it going and stay safe.

Thank you for caring and all your hard work

Unknown said...


lzambeni said...

Bill, excellent article, keep up the good work. The only thing I would correct is the story about Vickie Adams seeing Shelley & Lovelady at the bottom of the stairs. This, of course was in her WCT, but Barry Ernst discovered it was fabricated by the Warren Commission. When you publish more about this please add it in the correction. Here is a snip from his website which explains it better than I could, since I'm really too tired to type right now...:

"Vicki is quoted in her Warren Commission testimony as saying Shelley and Lovelady were there. Yet those two men claimed they remained outside the Depository for some 10 minutes after the assassination. This apparent contradiction between Miss Adams’ prompt descent while claiming she saw two men still outside is what the Commission used to discredit her.

"Armstrong thinks her statement before the Commission—that she saw Shelley and Lovelady—is gospel. He contends her comments of not seeing those men made some 40 years after the fact should be viewed with skepticism and doubt.

"No one agrees more than I.

"That doubt is precisely what pushed me to search for the original transcript of her testimony. Did she really say she saw Shelley and Lovelady, or was her testimony doctored as she herself believes? I was looking for the first generation, virtually unalterable, accordion-style paper tape coded by the court stenographer. What I discovered was that this critical tape was missing from the National Archives. A later document revealed it had been destroyed by the Commission, previously on record as promising to preserve such tapes for future inspection.

"So, we don’t really know what Vicki said. Or didn’t say. Nevertheless, Armstrong maintains she was word-perfect about seeing those two men, and chastises her for telling me otherwise. He ends up calling her a “hoax.” Knowing about Vicki and her highly principled background, she is the last person who would fabricate a story..."

"Since Vicki’s original testimony no longer exists (prompting suspicion by itself), is there other corroboration?

"The best comes from a co-worker, Sandra Styles, who accompanied Vicki to the first floor. She was a perfect witness to not only verify the timing, but also to say who was there when the girls arrived. She was never questioned by the Warren Commission. Funny thing too is that Sandra Styles knew Shelley and Lovelady. In fact, she knew them well. When I tracked her down in 2002, she told me that Shelley and Lovelady definitely were not on the first floor. She repeated that in subsequent interviews, often emphatically. So how does Armstrong handle this?

“Adams’ co-worker, Sandra Styles, followed her from their office on the 4th floor, down the wooden stairs, and onto the 1st floor. As the two women were rushing out of the building, Styles momentarily focused her [eyes] on a policeman hurrying toward the stairs and elevator. Styles’ memory of seeing police (Officer Baker) on the first floor agreed with Adams’ statement of the time that she arrived on the first floor, which was within one minute after the shooting. Styles did not see Shelley or Lovelady, but her vivid memory of the police may explain why she paid little or no attention to other people in the area. Her focus of attention was on the policeman.”

"That elucidation is unsourced. I think I know why. Sandra Styles never saw a policeman on the first floor.

"After sending Sandra that paragraph for a response, she replied that she absolutely did not see a policeman, let alone police, on the first floor that day. She had no clue about where Armstrong got his information. Her only sighting of a cop, she said, was the one sitting on a motorcycle outside the building."